Does coadministration of an NMDA receptor antagonist (e.g. Ketamine) work well to prevent the development of tolerance (or hyperalgesia) to opioids (Oxycontin, oxycodone)? If so, do you recommend it?

53 -year-old man6 years ago
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53 -year-old man · 6 years ago
Recently, I started taking oxycontin and oxycodone again due to the unbearable pain.the tolerance of the drug came very quickly.I also want to avoid falling back into hyperalgesia (the Opiates were hurting me instead of relieving).I don't want to increase the dose of opioids.So, I'm looking for another solution to tolerance and hyperalgesia.I've read that dopioid rotation would be somewhat effective in preventing tolerance but the most promising one I've read about would be an NMDA receptor antagonist (especially ketamine)...in small doses.
Maryam Alrifaee · 6 years ago
Ketamine is a narcotic that is not widely used in practice to treat pain. It is mostly used intravenously during surgery or as a cream to treat specific types of pain. Its oral use is rather rare. Ketamine has several side effects and its oral use is more difficult. The coanalgesics most commonly used in practice are: tricyclic antidepressants (amytriptiline, nortriptyline...), pregabalin, gabapentin or duloxetine among others. Depending on the type of pain, one can also try acetaminophen (Tylenol) or anti-inflammatory drugs such as Advil or Aleve. These medications are usually tried as coanalgesics before ketamine. Sometimes, for certain types of pain, the application of heat or cold to the affected area may also help. It is best to discuss your options with your doctor. You may also want to discuss with your doctor the possibility of seeing a physiotherapist. Depending on the type of pain, some physiotherapists can also help and reduce the need for narcotics
53 -year-old man · 6 years ago
In fact, I have tried amytriptiline and gagapentin but I did not tolerate the side effects.I have also tried pregabalin (lyrica) which worked very well at first but my system became tolerant.I was at a very high dose.I stopped it because it did not work at all.So,
53 -year-old man · 6 years ago
i don't try any more this kind of medication because I'm becoming tolerant and some of them have big side effects on me.For the acetaminophen or/and anti-inflammatory I always have some under prescription but the beneficial effect is too little to relieve me.The hot and cold, I use it as often as possible.As for the physiotherapist, physiotherapist, etc...I have done quite a bit in 4 and a half years.I have not been able to have many meetings because I lack money.I continue to do exercises when I have a little less pain.I have at least managed to have an appointment at the multidisciplinary pain clinic in McGill (Montreal). It's a shame that the Outaouais region doesn't have this kind of service.In Ottawa they have a multidisciplinary pain clinic but they don't take patients from Quebec anymore...too bad.I'm going to check with my doctor for other possibilities but I think he's out of his depth.Neuropathic pain located in the back is often very complex to treat.I hope that the specialists in Montreal will be able to help me.Thank you for the information about Ketamine and other solutions.It's much appreciated.
Maryam Alrifaee · 6 years ago
I am happy to help you! Knowing that you have tried amytriptiline in the past and did not tolerate the side effects, you may want to talk to the Montreal specialists about nortriptyline. It is in the same family as amytriptiline and is an effective medication for neuropathic pain with fewer side effects than amytriptiline. I hope this situation improves quickly, it must be very difficult to suffer from chronic pain for the past 4 ? years. The McGill Pain Clinic seems to be a very good solution for you
53 -year-old man · 6 years ago
Thank you
53 -year-old man · 6 years ago
I just saw that there could be an interaction between nortriptyline and one of the following agents: cyclobenzaprine, celecoxib, bupropion that I already take:
i am seeing my doctor before going to McGill but I think I will wait before making a big change or trying anything.I want to know what the specialists at McGill are going to suggest.My doctor doesn't seem to know what to do anymore.I have 1 month left before the appointment in Montreal.The wait is going to be long especially because of my extreme pain.
Maryam Alrifaee · 6 years ago
It is true that nortriptyline has an interaction with bupropion, this interaction can be decreased (but not eliminated) by starting with a low dose of nortriptyline. I do not see any reported interaction with celecoxib and cyclobenzaprine. I agree with you that it would be best to discuss your options with the medical specialists in Montreal who will have access to all your active medical records and other measures that have been tried before. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours!

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